Grateful Dead Live at Giants Stadium on 1978-09-02
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- Grateful Dead
- DeadLists Project
Friend Of The Devil
New Minglewood Blues
Looks Like Rain
I Need A Miracle
Lazy Lightnin' ->
Scarlet Begonias ->
Fire On The Mountain
Estimated Prophet ->
Eyes Of The World ->
One More Saturday Night
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|Friend Of The Devil|
|New Minglewood Blues|
|Looks Like Rain|
|I Need A Miracle|
|Lazy Lightnin' ->|
|Scarlet Begonias ->|
|Fire On The Mountain|
|Estimated Prophet ->|
|Eyes Of The World ->|
|One More Saturday Night|
-- Set 2 is seamless
-- Set 2 sounds a lot better than Set 1
-- Pitch is not perfect but is a lot better
-- Thanks to Joe B. Jones for his help with the pitch correction
- 2010-04-04 19:27:06
- CD -> Adobe Audition v3.0 -> Samplitude Professional v11.03 -> FLAC
- East Rutherford, NJ
- Run time
- Transferred by
- Charlie Miller
- Giants Stadium
Subject: Starting to see a '78 pattern
That said, it all sounds pretty good for a stadium show. The gems of the 1st set are Jack Straw and Looks Like Rain. They really rocked out with the last part of JS in '78! I also am never excited at Lazy Lightning, but this Supplication was a pretty good one. If anything, maybe Estimated Prophet lingered around a little too long and Sugar Magnolia was a little flaccid, but otherwise, the 2nd set was very solid. All told, nothing here is going to make me hit the stop button, yet its not totally blowing my hair back (except for Scarlet>Fire, which gives this its fourth star).
Subject: Took My $15 Bill and Vanished in the Air
The parking crew lost total control of the huge lot outside. While at most large venues there would be a series of people who guide you to the next available slot, this turned into a four-way free for all. Whee!
This show cost $15 - a LOT at the time. During Friend of the Devil Jerry sings, "Went down to the levee but the Devil caught me there/took my $15 bill and vanished in the air."
At the end of the show the scoreboard lights up to read something along the lines of "The Grateful Dead Investigate the Universality of Music -- Egypt September 1978" and suddenly it all made sense: play one huge mediocre stadium show and then take that money and go have a blast in Egypt.
Can't begrudge them after all they've done for me, but..
Subject: What a weird show
I couldn't remember this one being worth a second listen, but came back because I found my note that this mostly-rough show supposedly has one of the greatest Scarlet>Fires (a Latvala claim, whose tastes can befuddle). So, does it measure up to, say, these vicious ten? :
5/5/77, 5/21/77, 12/30/79, 11/30/80, 9/4/83, 10/14/83, 9/5/85, 9/15/85, 7/18/89, 12/17/92
Because this is the show before the Egypt run, it seems to prompt extra curiosity. But what you actually want is the run after Egypt, which is on Road Trips 1-4 (not that Egypt were 4 or 5-star shows anyway). Not only is the performance weird, the set list is weird too, e.g. Drums>Space near the end of the second set instead of the middle (the set is still average length though; and it's not really a Space). This was an early experiment in playing stadiums - booked to generate travel cabbage for Egypt, and the 1st ever at Giants - so sound isn't dialed like 10 years later. Clearly this is a part of the problem. A very long hot day; the band had to be at the venue due to NRPS; Billy in a cast. Maybe their collective mind was on Egypt instead of New Jersey? Maybe a better source will come along and illuminate from a different angle?
First Set. Still, rarely does an off show not have a couple great ones hidden inside. The first set plunks along with the sound of a band coming to grips with a football stadium; fairly plodding for an NYC late-70s show - definitely below average for the era. There are long gaps and a sense of frustration (Dire Wolf). In a bizarrely inconsistent turn Looks Like Rain is a top version. It's as if filler from a great '77 was just inserted at the end of Tape 1 Side 1. It's just evidence #564b for how weird the band could be sometimes. Miracle, however, is just a wreck - up to this point it was Bobby having the good show but now it's just Donna. With the hot LLR you'd be excused for thinking Bobby's era-companion Lightnin'>Supplication would be the same. It's not.
Second Set. The mix improves for the second set. The band still sounds more '94 than '78, though Bobby and Donna's bizarre and misguided attempt at Pig Pen ad-lib in Good Lovin' is very height-of-disco-and-flares '78. Scarlet>Fire takes a while to settle into something worthwhile but when it does they take advantage of the bright spot, extending it out for 28 minutes. But particularly of note are Bobby's counterpoints. This version is all about what it becomes - where it goes, how it becomes this intricate jam; and it does this twice. Not the best of '78 (length did sometimes work against the band) but interesting for those heads that delve into what the band did in situations like that. The SBD has some wow & flutter during Estimated that would send you to the AUD if it didn't careen seriously off the rails anyway. Partway through Eyes the sound becomes more like a normal '78 SBD. Coincident to improved sound, the band plays better, and this one is consistent with the the top Eyes of '78 (for the best, start with 2/3). Weird. Next time you hear two heads arguing over whether or not Jer or Bobby are out of tune, play this Sugar Mag for them. It has the worst tuning I think they ever proceeded with. WTF? Why didn't a tech just hand Bobby his standby? The tuning is so bad Bobby can't find one key to sing in. It would be hard to find a '94/'95 Miracle and Sugar Mag as off-mark as these.
1st Set: D+
2nd Set: C-
Overall: 1½ stars (1 star show plus ½ star for Eyes)
Eyes of the World - Scarlet>Fire is good, but this is the peak and it's one of 78's best
SOURCES: Unfortunately there are no great sources for this show; all are weird. Most of the SBDs run at the wrong speed. The best source by a wide margin is the Miller106818 (with its seamless AUD crossfades and pitch correction, albeit with weird TV-band interference). The matrix doesn't add anything over the AUDS (which are nearly as quality as the SBDs and don't suffer from the poor mix in several places).
Subject: dosed scene
This is the one Good Lovin' with Bob singing that is worth a hoot. They are on it despite the clanging piano which detracts in '78 endlessly. Fire is plain awesome. The lead after verse two of Eyes caps this show (collective joy).
Subject: smokin' 2nd set
Subject: Good time had by all.
Jack Straw opener was always a prelude to a good show and this day was no exception.Great Stagger Lee and Friend of the Devil which was the norm for the period but the Scarlet and Eyes were top verisions of seminal songs for any era.I never ceased to be amazed though at the extent,range and depth of the Dead universe.After seeing a photo from my youth on FB to then be able to click in and relive it thanks to the magic of the most awesome Charlie Miller is beyond wonderful,and thanks for the photo Gerald!
Subject: A Quite Enjoyable Listen
Do yourself a favor and hear/download it.
So much energy and different elements contribute to this grate performance and grate recording.
Subject: Eyes is good...
tis one of my personal favorite Estimated>Eyes combos.
Subject: Well now, where have YOU been this whole time?
Thanks Charlie for making this one pretty.
Subject: 1st Show
Subject: Life Changing Concert
We left for NJ listening to 'Old and in the Way' and found a little place set up as a diner right out-side Rutherford, but in NY. They served hamburgers that were prepared on a huge fry-pan , with a mountain of onions. The burgers kind of fried and steamed in those onions and made for a wonderful surprise meal!
We head into Giants Stadium and it was an out-of -control party! Being a mere 13 years old, I hadn't smoked or really partied yet with my older sister, who had brought me. I was sober for the next 4 or 5 shows and then went crazy after that! The scene was wild compared to a lot GD shows I've seen since.
The NRPS opened up and Willie Nelson was next. I was, and still am a Highwaymen fan, and loved hearing Donna Jean come out for Willie's set and doing a couple numbers including 'Good Hearted Woman'.
For the Dead, which started soooo late, (due to difficulty's), I was blown away with the music and the girls with hair under their arms, dancing with me! I became a lifer!
As far as the show... the Dead performed! I remember the second set much better than the first. Good Lovin'. Scarlet Begonias put me into a dream world. Estimated Prophet may have had the biggest impact on my life over any other live show!
We left after the second set and only heard One More Sat Night from the stair wells and out side... as we were heading down, looking out from the stairs, we did see the ambulance for that poor soul. It still makes an impact to this day.
After 2 shows at Red Rocks and a laid-back but well practiced-up show in NJ, the Grateful Dead jumped the pond and performed in Egypt. A monumental period in the history of the band, and a monumental evening of my life! I love it all!
Subject: Sounds Better But...